Ep. 83 The Way of Men with author Jack Donovan

Season #3

In this episode of The Blueprint Podcast, host Jason Smith welcomes Jack Donovan, author of The Way of Men and A More Complete Beast, and founder of the men's group Order of Fire. The conversation kicks off with a recommendation from Jason's online friend, Ray Gardner, who introduced him to Jack's work. Jason shares how reading The Way of Men resonated with his own experiences of seeking purpose and understanding one's place in the world.

Jack and Jason delve into the concept of "Vesperance," a term that encapsulates the wistful recognition of a past era and the anticipation of an unknown future. They discuss how the events of 2020 have left many feeling disoriented and the importance of adapting to the constantly shifting landscape. Jack draws parallels from classical philosophy, sharing insights from his studies of Plato and Socrates, and emphasizes the perennial nature of societal upheaval.

The discussion shifts to practical aspects of self-improvement and masculinity. Jack introduces the idea of finding purpose and meaning in life, even in a world that feels increasingly chaotic. He stresses the importance of focusing on what can be controlled within one's sphere of influence and the value of male peer groups in providing validation, identity, and a sense of belonging.

Jack also talks about the philosophy behind his men's group, Order of Fire, which aims to create a supportive community where men can develop and thrive. He shares the group's core rituals and the significance of having a personal system of values that guide one's actions.

Join Jason and Jack for an insightful conversation that explores the dynamics of masculinity, the impact of societal changes, and the journey towards self-actualization.

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